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Welcome back Frank to PackerChatters Live Draft Chat. Frank let us know when you are ready and we will start the questions from the fans with us tonight. Tonight’s Chat as usual will run approximately 1 hour. We will try and get to all the questions in this short time frame.<\/p>\n
[Comment From BubbaOneBubbaOne: ]
\nFrank, TE’s and RB’s took advantage of Hawk and Bishop in the passing game. Which cover ILB’s could TT draft in round 3 or after? BTW- a coach who was at Ohio St when Hawk was there said at the Senior Bowl that Hawk is too big, agree?<\/p>\n
Frank
\nILB is an average group. A guy who would get early consideration would be
\nDont’a Hightower of Alabama in the late first round. He is NFL ready.
\nMiddle round guys with coverage ability would be Jerry Franklin of Arkansas
\nHe would have limitations in the Packers scheme as a regular<\/p>\n
[Comment From Bob C.Bob C.: ]
\nWhat players improved their stock at the Senior Bowl and who’s dropped? Thanks Frank.<\/p>\n
Frank
\nTT has done a great job and value buying is always the wisest.
\nPicking #28 creates a multiple of situations that you must prepare for.
\nTrading up is always expensive.
\nBPA always wins in the long term. I think the Packers are looking at DB early and
\noften. TT usually stays with his value board. That’s why Packers are always in the Super Bowl hunt. I also like DL and an edge rusher opposit Matthews is critical.<\/p>\n
[Comment From packerboypackerboy: ]
\nWhat three players do you think the Packers have on their radar at 28 ? Also, can Zach Brown play ROLB in Capers D ?<\/p>\n
Frank
\nI say Packers needs are CB, OLB
\nZach Brown is not a great fit for the 3-4 front. He is a terrific athlete but not over 235 lbs. Edge rushers are lean this year. Packers may address secondary at #28
\nCBs like Gilmore, Boykin. Maybe a safety like Martin
\nPoint being Packers secondary was suspect in 2011 Woodson is entering 15th season and Collins must prove healthy. Clubs need 6 starting DB in today’s NFL game.<\/p>\n
Comment From Bob C.
\nWhat players improved their stock at the Senior Bowl and who’s dropped? Thanks Frank.<\/p>\n
Frank
\nI think players like CB Brandon Boykin, Shaun Prater & Leonard Johnson helped themseleves
\nI think a player like LB Melvin Ingram would be a great fit in GB
\nHe has played both up and down on the edge and makes plays. He figures in latter first round. He had an impressive Senior Bowl
\nAnother good fit for GB would be DL Jared Crick of Nebraska. He would be a great addition at DE in this front<\/p>\n
[Comment From MadtorkMadtork: ]
\nWhere is the most defensive talent late in round 1? OLB, 3\/4-DE or DB?<\/p>\n
Frank
\nI say DB. I am not impressed with OLB ers this year for the 3-4 scheme.
\nIt is also one of the riskiest positions in the game. I love the CB class and feel there are 6 safeties that should go in the top 100-125 that carry solid grades.
\nThe CB class is talented and deep. I think it will be the #1 position drafted this year again and probably the most in the first round, Top 50 and top 100 selections.<\/p>\n
[Comment From packerboypackerboy: ]
\nHave you heard any news on the health of Jared Crick ? If healthy I believe he could be a STUD in the Packer D. Could the Packers get him in round 2 ? THANKS<\/p>\n
Frank
\nCrick had only an average final season He was nicked up
\nIn addition, he is a tall angular lineman who is better on the outside in a
\nfive technique spot at end in the 3-4 front. He has the versatility to kick inside for 4 man fronts as a pass rusher. He would be a great fit for the Packers
\nCurrently, he figures to go in the late first \/ early 2nd round. if healthy
\nHis NFL Combine performance is huge.<\/p>\n
[Comment From RedtRedt: ]
\nWhich of these guys will most likely be available with #28; Upshaw, Barron, Ingram & Perry. Also, what rounds for Shea Mclellin, j. Crick, LaMichael James & Chris Rainey, thanks.<\/p>\n
Frank
\nBarron is a top 15-20 selection.
\nUpshaw is well respected and probably a top 20 guy.
\nIngram and Perry probably go beyond top 20. I think the 3-4 clubs like Ingram best while DE Perry is best suited for weakside end in a 4-3 front.
\nLB Shea McClellin is a possible 3rd round selection. Best at OLB in 3-4 scheme.
\nGood fit in GB
\nCrick late first \/early 2nd RB James is 2nd-3rd round according to workout and health. Chris Rainey is a 3rd day guy 4th-5th round area.<\/p>\n
[Comment From Uncle JoshUncle Josh: ]
\nShould the Packers overpay for an over-30 Scott Wells or draft Peter Konz at 28(if available)?<\/p>\n
Frank
\nWells has done well for Packers. He is only 31 years old. I say they resign him.
\nKonz is the #1 center and figures late first \/early 2nd. Teams like Ravens, Patriots and possibly Packers would be nice fits.<\/p>\n
[Comment From bobbob: ]
\nGood evening. my question tonight for frank is this. given the glaring weakness at the safety position with n.collins being lost what are your thoughts on m.martin(ok st), a.allen(s.car), and h.smith(n.d.).i’ve seen allen a bunch and think he’s a nice player. i haven’t seen the other 2. do you think they can fit the packer’s system and what rounds do you see them going in. thanks a lot.<\/p>\n
Frank
\nSafety is a key spot in GB
\nMartin and Allen are more strong safeties Both hit and tackle.
\nCoverage is OK
\nHarrison Smith is a kid I like. He shows better coverage skills than most safeties
\nHe probably goes in the 3rd round area. The safety spot is not as deep as corner and has become critical with all the nickel and dime packages. Safeties who can cover are gold.
\nAaron Henry of Wisconsin is a prospect to watch especially his ability to run and his positional workout. I think this kid could surprise.<\/p>\n
[Comment From John KayJohn Kay: ]
\nFrank, most of us fans focus on the physical side yet it’s probably less than half the equation. TT takes into account character, football IQ, drive, etc. Which defensive players projected to go in the first few rounds will TT dismiss out of hand b\/c of these issues?<\/p>\n
Frank
\nI think football IQ is so critical. Players that are hungry is vital to a locker room
\nThings happen over the course of the season and players that can reach down and play thru problems, injuries and never lose sight of the goal are the guys you must find in the scouting process.
\nDE Coples had a great Senior bowl but suspect senior season
\nThat’s a red flag even though he could go in the top ten selections.
\nOne thing to consider is that the process is ongoing.
\nNFL Combine will answer many questions via interviews.
\nDE Branch of Clemson has top talent but inconsistent motor.<\/p>\n
[Comment From Jacob LJacob L: ]
\nIf a ILB is BPA do you think Tedy may take one? A player that can cover will free up the Safetys to ball hawk and OLB to blitz. Hawk could be upgraded, do you agree?<\/p>\n
Frank
\nHawk is an average starter. That’s why I think a player on the GB short list
\nis LB Dont;a Hightower of Alabama. Great fit here. Physical and an every down defender.
\nThe BC backer Luke Kuechly is a top 15 guy.
\nJames-Michael Johnson of Nevada is a name to remember. Good ILB for 3-4 set.<\/p>\n
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[Comment From Badgermaniac58Badgermaniac58: ]
\nWhere do you think Nick Perry will go? He seems to be perfect for Packs needs.<\/p>\n
Frank
\nPerry is a big edge rusher and will be in demand by all 32 clubs.
\nAny move to playing up for the 3-4 set is risky.
\nI think the 4-3 clubs will select him in the top 20.
\nTeams like Tenn, Cinnym Philly and Seahawks would have him high on their first round list. Edge rushers are gold
\nThat’s why the GMen are in the Super Bowl. They make a difference .
\nBut Packers fans know that after the NFC title game.<\/p>\n
[Comment From CWood21CWood21: ]
\nGiven that Nick Perry and Courtney Upshaw are on the board, which one do you go with disregarding the rest of the team around you?<\/p>\n
Frank
\nUpshaw has played more in both sets up and down
\nHe is best suited for playing up on the strongside Great fit opposite Matthews.
\nPerry has huge upside but there is a critical learning curve to playing up
\nRemember Vernon Gholston from Ohio St and Aaron Maybin from Penn St.
\nBoth were 1st round disasters.
\nFor early contribution it is Upshaw. Hands down. Though Perry has more pass rushing big play potential.<\/p>\n
[Comment From DanDan: ]
\nWhat would it take to trade up and draft Nick Perry? We need explosive rushers, just look at the Giants.<\/p>\n
Frank
\nTrading up is not cheap. I think moving up like 10-12 spots from the #29 position might cost a #2 pick High price.
\nPlayer must be an impact player at that price.
\nIf I am TT I sit at #28 and take LB Upshaw or highest rated DB on my board.<\/p>\n
[Comment From SteveSteve: ]
\nFrank, Where do you see Michael Brockers being drafted? Is he a better fit in a 4-3 or 3-4? Thanks very much.<\/p>\n
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\nDL Brockers is an awesome prospect
\nHe played inside in a 4-3 set. I think he is a great end in the 3-4 set.
\nThis kid has enormous upside and capable of being a dominant NFL lineman.
\nHe is truly scheme diverse and gives a DC lots of options on a number of situations. Brocker would be an awesome pick for GB.<\/p>\n
[Comment From BudBud: ]
\nDo you think the Packers will go after a RB? What round? And who do you think they may target? Thanks Frank.<\/p>\n
Frank
\nRB is a good deep group.
\nThe position has been downgraded due to the NFL passing game and the durability and short NFL life expectancy for the position.
\nTT got James Starks on the 6th round in 2010. He was my #1 sleeper at running back that year. I think there will be good RB in the middle rounds and possibly the 3rd day of the NFL Draft. It is probably not a Top 4 positional priority in GB<\/p>\n
[Comment From BubbaOneBubbaOne: ]
\nYou had Gilmore going to the Packers in your Jan 4th mock draft. Do you still like him at 28th. He’s being compared to Woodson. His physicality, length, and lack of top speed suggests may be he could play safety. Your thoughts?<\/p>\n
Frank
\nGilmore faces a critical NFL Combine. He is a very good young player with some inconsistencies. I just feel that TT will address the secondary with two additions and both probably early like in the top 100 picks.
\nThe draft will dictate who and when but I would be surprised if they don’t address secondary.
\nTop GB needs – CB, DL, S, LB, OL, RB<\/p>\n
[Comment From packerboypackerboy: ]
\nWill Fletcher Cox last until pick 28? Does he fit the Packer D at DE ?<\/p>\n
Frank
\nGood question. DL Cox is another scheme diverse kid.
\nPlayed mainly inside in 4-3 set. Good fit for end in the 3-4 front.
\nHe has to be a guy on TT short list for the #28 selection.
\nHe figures in the latter first round and is a very good prospect.<\/p>\n
[Comment From MadtorkMadtork: ]
\nHow far will Dre Kilpatrick fall? What other “size” dbs do you see in later rounds?<\/p>\n
Frank Coyle
\nKrrkpatrick needs big NFL Combine especially the interviews to dispel off the field concerns.
\nJosh Norman – 6-1, 190 Carolina Coastal is a fast rising prospect that probably moved into the top 100 and possibly top 75 off a strong EW week.
\nTrumaine Johnson 6-2, 205 Montana is a small college kid to watch in workouts. He has starting NFL talent. Played CB in college, possibly a starting NFL safety.<\/p>\n
Last question for Frank tonight goes to BubbaOne.<\/p>\n
[Comment From BubbaOneBubbaOne: ]
\nMy contention is playmakers win you championships. This year’s D was missing 2 (Jenkins and Collins) and 2 others (Raji and Williams) had sub par years. There’s a lot of fine players but who do you see as difference makers at DE? at OLB? at CB? at Safety?<\/p>\n
Frank
\nPlayers in the top 3 rounds
\nDE would be Cox, Brockers, Crick
\nLB Courtney Upshaw 6-2, 265 Alabama
\nVontaze Burfict of Arizona St ,
\nCB Gilmore, Boykin, Chase Minnifield 5-11, 185 Virginia<\/p>\n
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